
thomachan72
10-01 04:58 PM
I think somebody should take an initiative and start a new thread called "THE BASHING THREAD" where everybody could go, (occasionally or in some cases very frequently) whenever we feel dejected and let it on whoever is active there. You could also invite your prey into the bashing thread by saying politely "If you are brave meet me in the bashing thread in 5 minutes".
In case somebody starts a new thread (for eg:- something like this very thread about airline induced missery) and if you feel angry at that person for doing so, you could simply post in the thread "Hallo friend please visit the BASHING THREAD for my reply" instead of hurling personal abuses in every thread we could effectively confine our ego created frustrations/anger into one single thread.
Computer gurus could work on it and try to create some special effects also, like if I bash somebody the degree to which that person is hurt should be reflected by color change or some sort of visual reference.
In case somebody starts a new thread (for eg:- something like this very thread about airline induced missery) and if you feel angry at that person for doing so, you could simply post in the thread "Hallo friend please visit the BASHING THREAD for my reply" instead of hurling personal abuses in every thread we could effectively confine our ego created frustrations/anger into one single thread.
Computer gurus could work on it and try to create some special effects also, like if I bash somebody the degree to which that person is hurt should be reflected by color change or some sort of visual reference.
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willwin
06-26 11:24 AM
Here are some of my own personal thoughts:
How can one tell a percentage number for something to pass? What kind of data can we base our calculations on?
Who said EB3 India will not forward next year? Did DOS say that? An individual lawyer is not Dept. Of State. I would like to see a written proof from DOS saying this so that we can plan ahead.
There were many naysayers for the July 2007 bulletin. But IV was able to get it current again. So stop believing in predictions and believe in yourself.
Thanks for your time and response!
I thought that anyone close to the bill processes or people who work on those, should be able to predict; probably know by now if this (HR 5882) is going to happen or not. Pappu, I bet you must be in a better position than me to know (not to decide, ofcourse) about the plight of this bill. I would be surprised if you deny.
It wasn't Ron's mere prediction but based on his discussion with Charles Oppenheim.
http://www.immigration-information.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5456
This is what he understands from the conversation:
The strong impression that I took away from the converstaion, and this is only my interpretation, not what was said explicity, is the following:
The good news: the CIS backlog isn't as big as previously feared and their productivity is at an all time high;
More good news: China EB3 had almost caught up with worldwide EB3 and is likely to do so next year;
The bad news: when visa numbers become available again, India EB3 is going to be back where it was almost a year ago and it is not likely to move forward much in the next fiscal year.
More bad news: 40% to 45% of the entire backlog is Indian EB2 and EB3.
And barring, July 2007, EB3 I has moved only inches in the last 2-3 years and that's how much it would move in the next 2-3 years (and that's assuming a similar efficiency pattern that USCIS exhibited this year).
I am not trying to open a new can of worms here but reminding of an old one that is already existing - EB3 India. The most priviliged to remain in this god damn queue for as long as they wish and even beyond that.
How can one tell a percentage number for something to pass? What kind of data can we base our calculations on?
Who said EB3 India will not forward next year? Did DOS say that? An individual lawyer is not Dept. Of State. I would like to see a written proof from DOS saying this so that we can plan ahead.
There were many naysayers for the July 2007 bulletin. But IV was able to get it current again. So stop believing in predictions and believe in yourself.
Thanks for your time and response!
I thought that anyone close to the bill processes or people who work on those, should be able to predict; probably know by now if this (HR 5882) is going to happen or not. Pappu, I bet you must be in a better position than me to know (not to decide, ofcourse) about the plight of this bill. I would be surprised if you deny.
It wasn't Ron's mere prediction but based on his discussion with Charles Oppenheim.
http://www.immigration-information.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5456
This is what he understands from the conversation:
The strong impression that I took away from the converstaion, and this is only my interpretation, not what was said explicity, is the following:
The good news: the CIS backlog isn't as big as previously feared and their productivity is at an all time high;
More good news: China EB3 had almost caught up with worldwide EB3 and is likely to do so next year;
The bad news: when visa numbers become available again, India EB3 is going to be back where it was almost a year ago and it is not likely to move forward much in the next fiscal year.
More bad news: 40% to 45% of the entire backlog is Indian EB2 and EB3.
And barring, July 2007, EB3 I has moved only inches in the last 2-3 years and that's how much it would move in the next 2-3 years (and that's assuming a similar efficiency pattern that USCIS exhibited this year).
I am not trying to open a new can of worms here but reminding of an old one that is already existing - EB3 India. The most priviliged to remain in this god damn queue for as long as they wish and even beyond that.

radhay
07-20 06:08 PM
Hi i feel your pain. I think you should look into writ of mandamus which people having been filing for FBI name check issues(i am one of the victim). You will need support of employer since this is employer's petition.
Hey, thanks for the support. Please talk to anyone who know has been affected personally. Please spread the word. I with few other people will talk to a lawyer soon on this to get things initiated.
But we will need enough support to gather a critical mass and start things rolling in the right track.
So can we have a online form where everyone affected can sign in? How do we do that?
Hey, thanks for the support. Please talk to anyone who know has been affected personally. Please spread the word. I with few other people will talk to a lawyer soon on this to get things initiated.
But we will need enough support to gather a critical mass and start things rolling in the right track.
So can we have a online form where everyone affected can sign in? How do we do that?
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waiting4gc
06-13 07:12 PM
This is excellent news and we should step back and celebrate for a moment, however we need to concentrate on IV goals.
I am sure we will have to fight retrogression soon again and other issues, probably name check etc. Please continue contributions to IV...
GO IV..
I am sure we will have to fight retrogression soon again and other issues, probably name check etc. Please continue contributions to IV...
GO IV..
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smuggymba
03-28 01:47 PM
my friedn ask me go iv site i come site and see spillover give my family gc soon this consufion what happenning
me laughing so much after reading this you made my day keep posting my friend.
me laughing so much after reading this you made my day keep posting my friend.

MLS
09-26 01:03 PM
Hi Nat,
I think it comes from Federal DOL. If your annual salary is below the salary DOL considers minimum then getting the "prevailing wagge info" from DOL helps to make sure your labor is not denied on basis of salary. If your salary is well above DOL's minimum wage then it not a must document.
I say this from what I remeber and my email trace shows me. But keep in mind for me this happened 6 years back so things might have changed.
I dont know how much of of those 6 months FDBL took and how much DOL.
However it makes sense to ask FDBL to keep yor other applications/ documents ready so when they hear back from DOL, your application is filed within a week or so. Ask them to give you list of all documents (birth date cert, university mark lists , referal letters etc that they will need in order to file your labor and 485 ) Sometimes coming up with those doecuments also takes a lot of time. May be you can get them ready while DOL responds.
I had been shy and did not follow through with them becuase I didnt want to be "pushy".
But I learned my lesson in GC that you muust followup on your application not by being "pushy" but politely and persistantly.
Having good relationship with your HR/ legal and manager is very crucial. As FDBL responds well to such authority figures.
All the best !
MLS
How long does it take to get the "prevailing wage info"? Does it come from State DOL or the Federal DOL?? I'm from Ohio
Thanks
Nat
I think it comes from Federal DOL. If your annual salary is below the salary DOL considers minimum then getting the "prevailing wagge info" from DOL helps to make sure your labor is not denied on basis of salary. If your salary is well above DOL's minimum wage then it not a must document.
I say this from what I remeber and my email trace shows me. But keep in mind for me this happened 6 years back so things might have changed.
I dont know how much of of those 6 months FDBL took and how much DOL.
However it makes sense to ask FDBL to keep yor other applications/ documents ready so when they hear back from DOL, your application is filed within a week or so. Ask them to give you list of all documents (birth date cert, university mark lists , referal letters etc that they will need in order to file your labor and 485 ) Sometimes coming up with those doecuments also takes a lot of time. May be you can get them ready while DOL responds.
I had been shy and did not follow through with them becuase I didnt want to be "pushy".
But I learned my lesson in GC that you muust followup on your application not by being "pushy" but politely and persistantly.
Having good relationship with your HR/ legal and manager is very crucial. As FDBL responds well to such authority figures.
All the best !
MLS
How long does it take to get the "prevailing wage info"? Does it come from State DOL or the Federal DOL?? I'm from Ohio
Thanks
Nat
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harivenkat
05-20 04:06 AM
Got response below :
Thank you for contacting me about the issue of immigration. I understand and appreciate your deep concerns. As you know, several members of Congress have proposed various reforms. These proposals deal with a broad range of issues including our national security, border enforcement, guest worker programs, immigrant children, a path to citizenship, and the issues of immigrant workers in agriculture, seasonal jobs, and high-skilled positions.
Michigan faces unique immigration issues as a major border state with Canada, and I have helped to increase resources along our northern border. In addition, my office has been contacted by thousands of Michigan citizens about their problems with our broken federal immigration system. I am well aware of the urgent need for reform and the impact of our system on those trying to navigate this complicated bureaucracy.
For these reasons, I believe that we must consider any reforms to our immigration system in a comprehensive and balanced manner, first and foremost taking into account our nation's security, the jobs of American workers, the rights of individuals and the economic interests of our state. I will keep your strong views in mind as the Senate considers this issue.
Thank you again for contacting me. Please continue to keep me informed about issues of concern to you and your family.
Sincerely,
Debbie Stabenow
United States Senator
Thank you for contacting me about the issue of immigration. I understand and appreciate your deep concerns. As you know, several members of Congress have proposed various reforms. These proposals deal with a broad range of issues including our national security, border enforcement, guest worker programs, immigrant children, a path to citizenship, and the issues of immigrant workers in agriculture, seasonal jobs, and high-skilled positions.
Michigan faces unique immigration issues as a major border state with Canada, and I have helped to increase resources along our northern border. In addition, my office has been contacted by thousands of Michigan citizens about their problems with our broken federal immigration system. I am well aware of the urgent need for reform and the impact of our system on those trying to navigate this complicated bureaucracy.
For these reasons, I believe that we must consider any reforms to our immigration system in a comprehensive and balanced manner, first and foremost taking into account our nation's security, the jobs of American workers, the rights of individuals and the economic interests of our state. I will keep your strong views in mind as the Senate considers this issue.
Thank you again for contacting me. Please continue to keep me informed about issues of concern to you and your family.
Sincerely,
Debbie Stabenow
United States Senator
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shukla77
06-26 11:50 AM
51.639% to be exact.:)
But honestly, what are the chances for this bill to succeed this year (before election)?
100% or 75% or 50% or 25% or 0%
But honestly, what are the chances for this bill to succeed this year (before election)?
100% or 75% or 50% or 25% or 0%
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nyte_crawler
03-14 12:39 PM
Question : Why is PERM risky ? I thought that is the only way to get LC now.
I am thinking of porting to EB2 (10 years + MBA) in US.
I agree that porting to EB2 is the best route. But my company was very reluctant to file another labor to port my case to EB2. They thought thur PERM, they may have to hire some applicant if they meet the requirements. The lawyer thinks PERM is risky. I know they are trying to avoid EB2 labor at any cost, though I also know a few friends who had the PERM labor application recently rejected.
Anyway, bottom line for me and others in the same situation is that we are stuck with EB3. And maybe stuck in the rut for a long long time unless something magical happens....
I am thinking of porting to EB2 (10 years + MBA) in US.
I agree that porting to EB2 is the best route. But my company was very reluctant to file another labor to port my case to EB2. They thought thur PERM, they may have to hire some applicant if they meet the requirements. The lawyer thinks PERM is risky. I know they are trying to avoid EB2 labor at any cost, though I also know a few friends who had the PERM labor application recently rejected.
Anyway, bottom line for me and others in the same situation is that we are stuck with EB3. And maybe stuck in the rut for a long long time unless something magical happens....
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dagabaaj
09-25 02:13 PM
My company started the PERM process for me about 2.5 months ago. I contacted Fragomen about 1.5 months after approvals within the company and they said they are working on establishing min requirements for the position. I then contacted them 3 weeks after that day and they said they have established the requirement and will request the DOL for prevailing wage info (this was 2 weeks ago). After which they are going to start the recruitment process. So I'm not sure if the time line is okay or should I be chasing them more frequently? Please advise.
Regards
Nat
Please establish a relationship with with your HR / Legal. Contact them often to check on the progress. Also most Law firms prefer to repond to HR and Leagl since this will keep the number questions to min. You should keep the communication going and keep checking on every step. You have the benefit of so many IV memebrs who can help. Join the local State Chapter and there you will meet people who can provide sound advice.
Regards
Nat
Please establish a relationship with with your HR / Legal. Contact them often to check on the progress. Also most Law firms prefer to repond to HR and Leagl since this will keep the number questions to min. You should keep the communication going and keep checking on every step. You have the benefit of so many IV memebrs who can help. Join the local State Chapter and there you will meet people who can provide sound advice.
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ItIsNotFunny
05-19 03:23 PM
Very nice initiative. Keep it up!
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walking_dude
10-04 03:59 PM
Put a message in MI India ( a site visited by lots of Indians in MI)
http://www.viaindia.com/apps/forums/open.aspx?ID=893925&mid=19
Keep it at the top by posting replies
Also put an Announcement (Free Ad) ( Deleted by MI India)
http://www.viaindia.com/apps/ads/details.aspx?ID=192251&MID=18&CAT=Announcements
Add more Announcements
http://www.viaindia.com/apps/forums/open.aspx?ID=893925&mid=19
Keep it at the top by posting replies
Also put an Announcement (Free Ad) ( Deleted by MI India)
http://www.viaindia.com/apps/ads/details.aspx?ID=192251&MID=18&CAT=Announcements
Add more Announcements
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BharatPremi
12-10 03:20 PM
I fully agree.
They may have some material education.
But Indian guys working here are third class fellows.
Arrogant, low tendencies, flase values etc.
They don't even mix with other Indians and think they are in Heaven or some thing.Don't worry if they loose their GCc.
These guys are unworthy of gettings GCs.
Best Regards
We are here talking about results of passiveness and highly critical need of activeness from members. And we have members from all countries. If you can contribute your ideas within the main theme of this thread than please do so otherwise stop this unnecessary ranting.It does not serve any purpose.
They may have some material education.
But Indian guys working here are third class fellows.
Arrogant, low tendencies, flase values etc.
They don't even mix with other Indians and think they are in Heaven or some thing.Don't worry if they loose their GCc.
These guys are unworthy of gettings GCs.
Best Regards
We are here talking about results of passiveness and highly critical need of activeness from members. And we have members from all countries. If you can contribute your ideas within the main theme of this thread than please do so otherwise stop this unnecessary ranting.It does not serve any purpose.
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10-10 09:20 AM
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rbharol
11-08 10:38 AM
As we have been learning, majority of the American public (including your neighbors) associate immigration reform with illegal immigration. Now if you ask them politely and ask whether they support immigration for highly skilled/highly educated individuals (already in the US working), you will hear no protests.
So basically, it boils down to awareness. When we have people affected by retrogression, unaware of the issues, how can we expect a lawmaker to know the inner details?
Just contact the lawmaker's office for creating awareness. Pro/anti-immigration is an after-thought.
Correct. No matter what is the party affliation, if you explain the hardships
of Skilled Workers and their issues, people agree that they should get relief..
(unless offcourse if you are talking to KKKs!)
IV I think has done a great job in spreading awareness.
So basically, it boils down to awareness. When we have people affected by retrogression, unaware of the issues, how can we expect a lawmaker to know the inner details?
Just contact the lawmaker's office for creating awareness. Pro/anti-immigration is an after-thought.
Correct. No matter what is the party affliation, if you explain the hardships
of Skilled Workers and their issues, people agree that they should get relief..
(unless offcourse if you are talking to KKKs!)
IV I think has done a great job in spreading awareness.
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njdude26
07-10 11:03 AM
is this for eb3 with no masters as well ?
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Hermione
10-01 10:02 AM
then why are visas about to be wasted yet again this year?
after...they said all numbers were exhausted on July 2?
i think it's not quite that simple.
there is no doubt that lack of numbers is a key key issue. but letting uscis off the hook when they have failed to process 269,000 Green Card numbers since 1994 is not kosher. that is >20% of the backlog right there.
my straightforward NIW application based on national interest service not exceptional ability (which may be more subjective) will take almost a year to process. wow....!
uscis also takes the narrowest interpretations of any law- even when it clearly conflicts with the law's intent- then it takes a lawsuit to budge them- speaking from personal experience and the loss of 4 years in PD in an India line...believe me this is not an agency i feel like defending.
just my 2c.
Hey, mine is EB2 ROW - can't get any more straightforward than that, I-140 is approved, and PD has always been current! Well, 1 year 7 month and still counting. It would be really easy for me to blame USCIS inefficiencies, but let's look at the whole picture. My second H1 was approved in 1 day (premium processing), my I-140 was approved in 9 days (not premuim processing), I got my fingerprint notice and RFE on I-485 a month after I applied - that means the case was looked at, determined what else they needed, and everything was processed. Work on my AOS case was over 4 month after applying (and I did apply concurrently). Then, I had to wait for namecheck... and wait and wait. Do I blame the processing center for that? No, it's not their fault. Do I blame Chertoff for that? Sure! He is the one who's supposed to negotiate things between DHS and FBI, and make sure things work well together.
Now, we come to a different issue - quotas. It is obvious that USCIS is not good at all at managing quotas. I am in management, and to me the task of getting within 100-200 approvals on 140,000 quota does not appear Herculean. It's a very predictive process, so theoretically it should be easy to get to right numbers. My take - USCIS system is built in a way that does not allow them to understand and manage the flow of petitions - and forecast how many will be ready for approval in any given month. That's a big flaw, but you know what is the best way to fix it - to relax quotas. Then, they would not have to triple-check every petition to make sure it's current and it is its time to be approved. Having quotas adds a lot of complexity that CIS can't manage. If you look at the immediate family petitions, that do not have quotas, they are getting approved in 3-4 month, so one part of the system works fine, and the other does not.
after...they said all numbers were exhausted on July 2?
i think it's not quite that simple.
there is no doubt that lack of numbers is a key key issue. but letting uscis off the hook when they have failed to process 269,000 Green Card numbers since 1994 is not kosher. that is >20% of the backlog right there.
my straightforward NIW application based on national interest service not exceptional ability (which may be more subjective) will take almost a year to process. wow....!
uscis also takes the narrowest interpretations of any law- even when it clearly conflicts with the law's intent- then it takes a lawsuit to budge them- speaking from personal experience and the loss of 4 years in PD in an India line...believe me this is not an agency i feel like defending.
just my 2c.
Hey, mine is EB2 ROW - can't get any more straightforward than that, I-140 is approved, and PD has always been current! Well, 1 year 7 month and still counting. It would be really easy for me to blame USCIS inefficiencies, but let's look at the whole picture. My second H1 was approved in 1 day (premium processing), my I-140 was approved in 9 days (not premuim processing), I got my fingerprint notice and RFE on I-485 a month after I applied - that means the case was looked at, determined what else they needed, and everything was processed. Work on my AOS case was over 4 month after applying (and I did apply concurrently). Then, I had to wait for namecheck... and wait and wait. Do I blame the processing center for that? No, it's not their fault. Do I blame Chertoff for that? Sure! He is the one who's supposed to negotiate things between DHS and FBI, and make sure things work well together.
Now, we come to a different issue - quotas. It is obvious that USCIS is not good at all at managing quotas. I am in management, and to me the task of getting within 100-200 approvals on 140,000 quota does not appear Herculean. It's a very predictive process, so theoretically it should be easy to get to right numbers. My take - USCIS system is built in a way that does not allow them to understand and manage the flow of petitions - and forecast how many will be ready for approval in any given month. That's a big flaw, but you know what is the best way to fix it - to relax quotas. Then, they would not have to triple-check every petition to make sure it's current and it is its time to be approved. Having quotas adds a lot of complexity that CIS can't manage. If you look at the immediate family petitions, that do not have quotas, they are getting approved in 3-4 month, so one part of the system works fine, and the other does not.
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GCA
08-21 06:13 PM
I have really had good experiences when i renewed my passport, my wifes passport and also when i applied for my childrens PIO card. On each ocassion the documents arrived before time and the service at the SFO consulate was great when i called them with a concern. On all 4 ocassions i use the $20 option to get the document by Fedex. We spend thousands on the recurring nightmare at USCIS, $20 for peace of mind is not a big deal.
I have also observed that we tend to get overly agressive when we talk to indian govt officials here. I think we expect bad service and we mentally prepare ourselves to fight. I am not saying that all do this but some of my friends did concur with the thought. There are many geuine cases where there is a problem, as some desi govt officers are sticklers for making sure that forms are in 'order'.:D
Same with me (again SFO consulate in late 2004). No issue and everything happened smoothly. When I called to enquire on the status, they responded very professionally.
Again there are several factors to it. If the person recently came to USA, may be he will be much more polite and as days goes on, there true self start erupting OR its just they easily show their frustrations given there job security or could be we are loosing our respect with fellow indians as well recent times after all INS and federal governments are doing to aliens. Just my thoughts
I have also observed that we tend to get overly agressive when we talk to indian govt officials here. I think we expect bad service and we mentally prepare ourselves to fight. I am not saying that all do this but some of my friends did concur with the thought. There are many geuine cases where there is a problem, as some desi govt officers are sticklers for making sure that forms are in 'order'.:D
Same with me (again SFO consulate in late 2004). No issue and everything happened smoothly. When I called to enquire on the status, they responded very professionally.
Again there are several factors to it. If the person recently came to USA, may be he will be much more polite and as days goes on, there true self start erupting OR its just they easily show their frustrations given there job security or could be we are loosing our respect with fellow indians as well recent times after all INS and federal governments are doing to aliens. Just my thoughts
guy03062
06-30 10:31 AM
As SKIL Bill is in both house (Congress & Senate), couple of co-sponsers/strong supporters in both house and probably easy to convince Senators/Congressmen compared to CIR, I am wondering what is IV's strategy (QGA) to push this bill?
engineer
06-30 09:31 PM
I loved Fragomen. Very responsive and are working over weekends to expedite applications..
I highly recommend them.
I highly recommend them.
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