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  • needhelp!
    03-05 02:53 PM
    Yes, country of birth should get us close.

    needhelp...maybe instead of country of chargeability we should ask for grouping by country of birth; this is an actual field required in the I-485 form.

    You are right about priority date. It is not a field available in the 485 form. in the 485 form we reference the approved I-140, which is the only place where your see the "Priority Date" field.

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  • jungalee43
    11-08 03:47 PM
    Dems winning the house is definitely a good news. Senate was always favorable to us. It was "majority of the majority" in the house that was totally against any kind of relief barring something for nurses. Most of the IV members know the retrogression story SR1932 onwards. But six months before that senate had approved relief for all EB categories under Tsunami Relief Act And the republican lobby in the house restricted it to nurses only. That was HR1268 of April 2005. You can refer to Murthy chat session of May 9, 2005 to read some info on this.
    The presidential elections were just over then and primaries were not on the horizon for this congressional election. In short house republicans would have blocked any immigration relief; elections or not.
    With Sensenbrenner and Hastret gone, at least now we have new people to deal with and we know they are more towards the center. We can now hope that our prayers would be answered.

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  • pappu
    06-26 09:53 AM
    I know IV is doing its best and there are other groups fighting for HR 5882.

    But honestly, what are the chances for this bill to succeed this year (before election)?

    100% or 75% or 50% or 25% or 0%

    Ron Gotcher predicts that none of the individual bills may pass this year.

    And also that EB3 I may not move forward even next year!

    I am not sure how many EB3 (I) volunteers are there in IV (who are really focussed). Are they getting nothing? The prediction is that EB3 I may go back to Nov 2001 and stay there for a while (or may be for the rest of next year).

    Is the efforts of EB3 (I) volunteers being exploited (indirectly, of course)? What are they fighting for?

    Here are some of my own personal thoughts:

    How can one tell a percentage number for something to pass? What kind of data can we base our calculations on?

    Who said EB3 India will not forward next year? Did DOS say that? An individual lawyer is not Dept. Of State. I would like to see a written proof from DOS saying this so that we can plan ahead.

    There were many naysayers for the July 2007 bulletin. But IV was able to get it current again. So stop believing in predictions and believe in yourself.

    I believe it is immigrants more than anyone who will benefit the most from the success of IV's efforts. Thus it is in our interest to make IV successful.

    Everyone is free to take part in IV campaigns. Nobody is being 'exploited'. However, if we had a more massive effort for admin fixes, we could have seen better results. With only around 5K letters (and that too a lot of anonymous ones) you cannot expect something to happen quickly. If you are trying to convey a plight of hundreds of thousands that you need hundreds of thousands of letters.

    Likewise if you need these bills to move, we cannot expect a couple hundred calls to bring a bill on the floor.

    IV is IV members. It is what each IV member decides to do that decides the fate of any campaign. The contributions received during the campaign also decides how much we can invest in our lobbyists. During the past 2 months we were able to collect only $16656 (refer this thread ( You can do your math and figure how much we can lobby when we have opposition that can spend much more.

    IV can be successful only when its members want it to be.

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  • Macaca
    09-15 09:05 PM
    To feel today
    what one felt yesterday
    isn't to feel -
    it's to remember today what was felt yesterday,
    to be today's living corpse of
    what yesterday was lived and lost
    Fernando Pessoa, The Book of Disquiet


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  • go_guy123
    08-20 12:22 PM
    I used David Cohen at Canada Immigration - Information on Immigration to Canada (

    They did a good job. My only complaint with they kept changing the paralegal that was handling my case like 3 times during the whole process. Otherwise no problems.

    Canada rules are not complicated at all. You don't need any agent for doing paperwork.
    Either you are eligible or not.

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  • 485Mbe4001
    12-10 04:25 PM
    "Does battering members without knowing a real cause and passing judgements and making snide remarks help this movement in any way?

    Anyone ?"

    Maybe it does, maybe it doesnt, I dont know.

    I am one of the few who was all alone in a congressmans office requesting the district director 'lets wait for 5 more mins' because all the people who were supposed to come to the meeting bailed out at the last moment without telling me.

    its been 6 months and i am still pissed off about it. My daughter had to be rushed to the hospital the day before the meeting, i still made it. My employers were also supportive about giving me the day off to look after my child and attend the meeting too.

    So am I judgemental if someone promises to attend something and doesn't, you bet i am.

    Each one is supposed to his/her own part in a own way, but please dont promise something and be callous to ignore it completely. If you can contribute, contribute, if you cant then dont, provide your services in someother way but dont make light of the effort that others put in. The guys who failed to make to the Texas meeting could have emailed or called up and said so.

    My Original Peaceful question again:

    Does battering members without knowing a real cause and passing judgements and making snide remarks help this movement in any way?

    Anyone ?

    Peace again..


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  • nk2006
    02-13 12:10 PM
    Many posts on this thread suggest that there is no H1B type visa for nurses and so they have to come on only greencard; and that is why Health lobby is trying hard to GRAB 90K unused visas (note: I consider this as a grab because from skill/CIR bills; we are trying to recapture unused visas and make them available to ALL EB immigrants rather than allocating them to one special group). But according to this news item on immigration-law there seems a non-immigrant visa H1C available for nurses. Is this true? am I misreading this?

    ==========news item follows==================
    02/13/2007: DOL Announcement of Processing of H-1C Labor Attestations

    The Nursing Relief for Disadvantaged Areas Reauthorization Act of 2005 took effect December 20, 2006. The Act reauthorized the H-1C nonimmigrant nurses program, a program originally created by the Nursing Relief for Disadvantaged Areas Act of 1999. Under this program, eligible hospitals file attestations with the Department of Labor, Office of Foreign Labor Certification which, if approved, will support nonimmigrant worker petitions filed with the Department of Homeland Security, U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services. The Department of Health and Human Services has informed the Office of Foreign Labor Certification that the same hospitals eligible for the original program continue to be eligible. These were listed in the Department of Labor's Interim Final Rule implementing its portion of the H-1C program published on August 22, 2000 (65 Fed. Reg. 51138). The Employment and Training Administration, under the authority of the new public law, is reinstating the H-1C labor attestation program and is accepting applications by qualified hospitals. Eligible hospitals should be advised that the now-expired OFLC form (ETA 9081), Attestations by Facilities Temporarily Employing H-1C Nonimmigrant Aliens as Registered Nurses, has not been authorized by the Office of Management and Budget (OMB) for current use. However, the OFLC will accept applications using the expired form until a new form is approved by the OMB. The attestations are made enforceable by the 2005 Act. ETA is in the process of revising the form under the OMB clearance process, and taking other appropriate regulatory action. Once approved by OMB, employers will be required to use only the new form.

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  • hebbar77
    04-10 02:05 PM
    Chandu, you made me laugh (in a fun way, not in the making fun of you way). Hiding is done inside the closet, not behind it. Maybe lack of clothes is explainable because one is "behind" the closet :)

    On a serious note though, You provided so many ways that money is being raised by running marathons, funding drives etc etc...but come on, where on this website or anywhere else is it mentioned how this money is being spent??

    I have absolutely no right to ask that question because i have never contributed money. But when i am told that I dont have access to this thread or that thread because I am not a donor...I do have the right to question if this organization actually represents all immigrants or just the donors?? If the motto of IV becomes "Change for fairness and justice (For Donors Only)" then it would make a lot more sense to me. But as long as IV keeps on harping that they represent the plight of legal immigrants (which I am) then I do have the right to ask the question ..."What exactly has IV done?"

    Asking the question is never the problem, it may make people uncomfortable but I want people (like yourself) who are contributing to at least ask IV before ranting on people like me (who dont contribute) to support the cause...Supporting the cause is NOT equal to giving IV money. The republicans already tried something similar ..."If you are anti-war, you dont support the troops"..That was fallacious and so are all the personal attacks on the "freeloaders" (like myself ofcourse).

    You are on the money chanakya , good post.


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  • learning01
    03-17 04:44 PM
    Frist Immigration Bill Would Target Bosses

    By SUZANNE GAMBOA, The Associated Press, Friday, March 17, 2006; 5:28 PM
    From WaPo online:

    ... Sen. Edward M. Kennedy, D-Mass., faulted Frist's bill for not addressing what to do with illegal immigrants already in the U.S. "Countless businesses rely heavily on their labor and it's long past time to provide legal avenues to bring this underground economy out of the shadow," he said.

    ...More than double the number of employment-based green cards, from 140,000 to 290,000, and make more employment based visas available to unskilled workers. It also would free up other visas by exempting immediate relatives of U.S. citizens from being counted in the annual pool of 480,000 visas, and increase country-by-country ceilings on family sponsored and employment-based immigrants.

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  • coolmanasip
    05-30 06:40 PM
    what does "lie on the floor" mean........amendment was ordered to lie on the floor????


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  • anu_t
    06-20 08:46 AM
    as per, democrats are up to restore family and employment immigration and eliminate point system
    that's a good news for people like me who has yet to file for Labour. Right?

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  • amitga
    10-04 03:58 PM
    Lets start spreading word that MI chapter meeting on 10/20.


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  • needhelp!
    11-16 12:44 PM
    I totally understand the push from IV to encourage state chapters and build grassroots strength to this movement.

    Join the state chapter : IV does not have a state chapter in the state I live in - Nebraska,: So I thought I would start one and wrote to IV ...after initial response from IV , there has been no progress .

    Start contributing: I have already contributed $100 and will contribute further as and when I can.

    Volunteer for IV: Volunteered to start the state chapter.

    Well I have done my bit so hopefully I will not be disparaged for making comments on this issue,

    You must promote your state chapter by starting a thread and keeping it alive so those visiting the forums will know. (most people only look at latest threads)
    Where is the link to your state chapter in your signature?

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  • dixie
    03-20 04:10 PM
    I see that there is a lack of understanding about what "special" labor cert means.In the context of univ profs it means that the university is allowed to justify hiring an alien based on the fact that he was the BEST qualified candidate for the postion - that is, the univ is allowed to reject other minimally qualified applicants. This is currently not the case for other junta in either EB-2 or EB-3 .. if ANY minimally qualified american citizen / PR is found, the labor cert is denied.

    If this is extended to EB2 / people with advanced STEM degrees as Frist Bill proposes, the labor cert will become quicker and painless for these folks (not to mention the immigration attorneys and the employers).


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  • BharatPremi
    09-20 04:05 PM
    No need to jump the gun. I didn't ask it at a personal level, in case you didn't understand it! Instead of nitpicking on a single statement, read the whole paragraph! I am a member of a state chapter and keep posting on the Yahoogroups, though it's been a month since anyone else posted there ( and I don't get any replies).

    I'm not getting into personal level/ad hominem discussion as it's pointless. I don't need to prove anything to anybody.

    I read and understood the whole paragraph with both "published" and "Hidden" messages what you wanted to convey. If you do not see much activity on your state forums, why do not you take the lead to reverse the course? That would be the right direction rather than suggesting to change the skeleton. Do you blame yourself (Since you are claiming yourself a member)for not having much activity in your state level? If not then problem lies there and that is my hint to you.

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  • jsb
    07-25 08:48 AM
    That is wrong. You must wait until you file your taxes next year with the new ID number.

    If your spouse got an SSN in 2007, but you didn't care, and filed your 2007 tax with his/her ITIN, can't you amend your 2007 tax by correcting ITIN with SSN?

    Why wait till next year? I don't think stimulus check is an annual phenomenon. Isn't it a one time deal?


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  • factoryman
    02-12 12:15 PM
    we have to take the word from IV as truth but with a grain of salt. As unitednations alluded to, this push is coming from Employers. That should make us worry and STOP this grab.

    Believe me, efforts are underway full swing to grab these unused EB3 visas. Apart from the references I made in my post, I also am in touch with a Staffing firm that recruit nurses from non-US countires.
    We have discussed a lot about things in this forum. Every person came up different thought, links etc and moreover our goal of adding I-485 in this feb bill.

    After reading all the post mentioned by IV core, it is clear that no one can do anyting about it, there is no lobbyist that can force this to happen

    So our struggle is useless, some may not agree to it because, they say they are pushing and trying to make voice that can be heard by the congress.

    Congress did not listen to those million illegals on what grounds we expect our voice to be heard.

    I say it again, our struggle is useless. When they wish then only something might happen.


    Read my post, if you have already not done so. (

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  • NolaIndian32
    06-24 01:07 PM
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  • sam_hoosier
    06-08 02:55 PM
    We almost fell in to the Fire from the Frying Pan. Now that we are back in the Frying Pan, somehow it doesn't feel that bad of a place to be in. LOL :D

    Well said. After having waited for almost 6-12 months for this bill to come to the senate, I am actually glad to see it fall through.

    04-10 04:09 PM
    Sanjus is comparing apples to oranges. ie, comparing IV to Comcast?

    Reddog: We discussed enough on this Donor and Freeluncher's. You decided not to pay. Why still keep arguing about it?

    Why not you provide free lunch to your neighbor's every day? Over a period of time, those neighbor's will think it is their right to get Free lunch from you.

    If you are a student and not earning, you have every right to request for free access. You claim to be Highly educated and earning and you still want free ride?

    09-04 04:20 PM
    Make the smart decision! March on Washington!

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